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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: More more proof Al Qaeda, and Clintorxx did 9-11 Reply with quote
 
It's a great story you have to go read it there.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082301962.html
 

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Oh and if clintoris didn't have anyting to do with it due to his inaction.

How in the H did he know to say before the names was made public that as soon as the second plane hit the tower I knew it was Obama Biden, oh sorry I get that confused with Obama Bin Laden, oh dang, I'm making a terrorist look bad, Osama Bin Laden.

Huh????? How in the wide wide world of sports did the perpetrator in chief happen to say that?
 

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Atleast the 90s didn't have the mass lay offs at GM like they do today. GM marketshare dropped from 30% in the 1990s to 23.5% in 2008
http://www.smartmoney.com/one-day-wonder/index.cfm?story=20080707-gm-stock
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080627/AUTO01/806270353/&imw=Y

Jobs seemed much easier to find and get. Unemployment fell to 4.0% from 6.6% when Clinton took office and while it dropped to 3.9% during Bush's first year it peaked at 6.3% droped slightly before climbing back up to 5.7%http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

While the Murder Rate is stable under Bush (with a slight climb) it fell drastically under Clinton.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/totalstab.htm

NASDAQ Stocks rose during the Clinton era stock market bubble
from below 1000 to nearly 5000 but burst under Bush (even before 9-11) to a low near 100 and have only increased to the lower 2000s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nasdaq_Composite_dot-com_bubble.svg
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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Atleast the 90s didn't have the mass lay offs at GM like they do today. GM marketshare dropped from 30% in the 1990s to 23.5% in 2008
http://www.smartmoney.com/one-day-wonder/index.cfm?story=20080707-gm-stock
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080627/AUTO01/806270353/&imw=Y

Jobs seemed much easier to find and get. Unemployment fell to 4.0% from 6.6% when Clinton took office and while it dropped to 3.9% during Bush's first year it peaked at 6.3% droped slightly before climbing back up to 5.7%http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

While the Murder Rate is stable under Bush (with a slight climb) it fell drastically under Clinton.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/totalstab.htm

NASDAQ Stocks rose during the Clinton era stock market bubble
from below 1000 to nearly 5000 but burst under Bush (even before 9-11) to a low near 100 and have only increased to the lower 2000s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nasdaq_Composite_dot-com_bubble.svg


D'RATS and no OIL is what's happening now. Your ilk and the fantasy island dream of new energy sources is the pipe dream giving us our slow down now.

And GMs marketshare????? TOOO funny you are worried about a BIG Corporation that depends on CHEAP oil to sell their wares. You libs bitch and bitch more just to bitch.

During Clintoris no one counted ILLEGALS!!!!!!! geeeeze

For the Jobs. I looked in my paper on Sunday there are pages and pages of jobs. NOW most people are tooooo lazy and rely on the nanny state to care for them.

Murder rate during clintoris went down cause of Regans and Bush's overhaul of sentencing, and all the states doing the same. So murders stayed in jail.

NOW we have your pals and fellow ILLEGAL voters, at least these people are alive, who murder here cause D'RATS care sooooooooooooooooo much.

NOW you're worried about BIG Corps in Nasdaq? Funnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

First the prices were INFLATED, second the prices were not supported by any fundamental growth in the economy other than people signing up for internet accounts and then the hardware and software to support that. Go to university and study business then well have a discussion.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
The USA was still better in the 1990s than it has been so far in the 2000s. Atleast back then we didn't have the godsforsaken Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 and all teh rest of the constitutions shredding that followed back then we were freer.  
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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The USA was still better in the 1990s than it has been so far in the 2000s. Atleast back then we didn't have the godsforsaken Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 and all teh rest of the constitutions shredding that followed back then we were freer.


We were getting our ass kicked all over the world by the moohamet midgets. Now we've wiped out a large portion of their most fanatical recruits by having the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and have Iran surrounded.

Cause clintoris chose the head in sand approach and willy nilly sending in Tomahawks doesn't mean there was peace.

And just cause Mainstream [codeword for leftist] Media doesn't report facts when D'RATS are in the oval orifice does not mean it was Good Times!!!! Clintoris signed NAFTA!!!
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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The USA has always been at war, or atleast nearly always. It's never known peace, only the false sense of it resulting from the ignorance of knowledge regarding its actual military operations. Just because we don't hear about our skirmmishes doesn't mean they aren't going on. Maybe in 60 or so years you'll finally figure that out, right now you're still too young.
 
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The USA has always been at war, or atleast nearly always. It's never known peace, only the false sense of it resulting from the ignorance of knowledge regarding its actual military operations. Just because we don't hear about our skirmmishes doesn't mean they aren't going on. Maybe in 60 or so years you'll finally figure that out, right now you're still too young.


I understand that fine. Funny how your ilk doesn't consider all the wars you fight wars and all the people and institutions you demean and berate as any kind of travesty at all.

Maybe soon you will figure that out.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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That's a constitutional duty of our federal government, welfare is not.


Hmm,

Well Jaack, when I was growing up, my mother was a single mother, with 4 children who was on welfare on and off and had too work and still didn't have anything more than the very bear necessities, we had a computer from before she was single and we had a TV and a game console we got as presents from relatives and other than that we had clothes, food and a small place too stay. For my entire childhood.


What you should be saying is we should get the welfare system monitored a tad more closely and kick all the not-workers out unless they have a legitimate reason then it costs less on the government and at the same time they can offer more too those who need it. You come across as extremely inconsiderate of others who need help or wish not too be detained for no reason. Nazi! Laughing Razz Wink

No but seriously, you should make a habit of considering circumstances before making broad assessments. Smile


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Ok, someone explain too me how that is a bad deal for America? Please! Because last I checked it now costs us more too cut down our forests and buy back the processed lumber in furniture than we make from the exports, and that's not including the job loses.


So too me, that sounds like a pretty big scam with you as the benefactor, and yet you bitch. You make money off of us, you make jobs off of us, so basically we are paying your employees and paying for the processing of our lumber by you... Seems a tad odd that you could possibly deem that a negative impact on your economy, I'm confused, is there something I'm missing?
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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That's a constitutional duty of our federal government, welfare is not.


Hmm,

Well Jaack, when I was growing up, my mother was a single mother, with 4 children who was on welfare on and off and had too work and still didn't have anything more than the very bear necessities, we had a computer from before she was single and we had a TV and a game console we got as presents from relatives and other than that we had clothes, food and a small place too stay. For my entire childhood.


What you should be saying is we should get the welfare system monitored a tad more closely and kick all the not-workers out unless they have a legitimate reason then it costs less on the government and at the same time they can offer more too those who need it. You come across as extremely inconsiderate of others who need help or wish not too be detained for no reason. Nazi! Laughing Razz Wink

No but seriously, you should make a habit of considering circumstances before making broad assessments. Smile


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Ok, someone explain too me how that is a bad deal for America? Please! Because last I checked it now costs us more too cut down our forests and buy back the processed lumber in furniture than we make from the exports, and that's not including the job loses.


So too me, that sounds like a pretty big scam with you as the benefactor, and yet you bitch. You make money off of us, you make jobs off of us, so basically we are paying your employees and paying for the processing of our lumber by you... Seems a tad odd that you could possibly deem that a negative impact on your economy, I'm confused, is there something I'm missing?



Should a state wish to provide welfare services that is up to the state. I do not say people do not need help. The job of our Federal Govt is not to provide such services due to the innefficiencies and theft of money, labor and services from the population as a whole.

Forcing people to pay for welfare at the point if a gun is not compassionate at all it's thievery.

And so you know I' am one of the most compassionate people there are. I support quite a few families through my church. I help women who just got out of prison get reunited with their children. So don't preach to me about compassion. I do it by my choice ON TOP of all the other money that is forcibly taken from me.

NAFTA is not bad I was pointing out that ATanks banner boy has his liberal flaws.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
I said you come off as,
not;
You are.


And you do. You do come off as extremely cold and uncaring, regardless of the way you are. I come off as an asshole, you'll never know if I am or not.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
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I said you come off as,
not;
You are.


And you do. You do come off as extremely cold and uncaring, regardless of the way you are. I come off as an asshole, you'll never know if I am or not.


Fine, cause we're talking about the actual US COnstitution and the duties of the Federal govt. It's cut and dry, and forcing people to pay for things that are unconstitutional at the point of a gun that is wrong, no matter what the alleged dumb azz intentions are.
 

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Oh and read the facts you can Google it, maybe I will. But CONSERVATIVES are FAR more generous and caring than libs. that's all day everyday, and day. PLUS CONSERVATIVES are happier people as a whole than are libs again a fact.  

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
I don't have a political side.

Around here, provincially we've had the Tories fail, and we've had the Libs fail (currently the libs are failing) and so I circumstantially have no opinion on the matter because the knowledge of the parties does me little good as they both can't get anything right around here.

In textbook examples I'm a Tory.
 

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